Thursday, 20 October 2016

HiFiMAN RE-00 Earphone Review by mark2410

HiFiMAN RE-00 Earphone Review by mark2410

Thanks to Massdrop for the loaner.

First Impressions:  So while I expect that many readers of this will know the name HiFiMAN but since Massdrop may be bringing these to a more mainstream audience too I’ll give a bit of background.  Years Back HiFiMAN made an earphone called the RE-0.  It retailed for err a couple hundred US dollars and it was wide lauded as a dynamic version of the venerable ER-4 from Etymotic.  Though you gave up a lot of isolation you gained perhaps an even better treble reproduction.  In short it was one of the most accurate earphones ever created.  Then one day HiFiMAN slashed the price of the RE-0 to US$100 and Head-Fi went bat poop crazy.  Old guard audio peeps lavished praise on it like mad and were blown away with the audio quality given its price.  However not all was roses.  You see new people saw all this praise, grabbed a set and then discovered what neutral bass actually was and they weren’t thrilled.  So you need to get right from the start these have very neutral bass which means they are probably less bassy than just about any earphone you may have ever heard.  The way humans perceive sound means that most things dramatically bump up the bass quantity, these do not.

Now with that out of the way we can talk about these a bit.  Now why have I told you about the RE-0 when this is the RE-00?  Well, HiFiMAN decided a few years back to kill the line and its replacement was the RE-400.  It got rave reviews too for the money but it wasn’t the RE-0 and it wasn’t just quite as resolving or detailed.  There were people who lamented the end of the RE-0 and I was one of them.  So Massdrop has gotten involved and I don’t know how it came to be but they have got HiFiMAN to make this, the RE-00.  Now it’s not exactly like the 0, there are some differences but this is close, soooo close with one exception.  Its price.  This Massdrop will deliver you one for US$35 in the US or for US$40 elsewhere in the world.  With that price I thought these must just be playing on the old 0 name.

So in came my box and they come in a very small little box.  Not anything fancy at all and when you open the box you get a pretty, err shall we say Spartan bundle. You get the earphones with a pair of tips on them and you get a little plastic bag with 1 more pair of tips.  Basically you get sod all.  No case, no adapters, no shirt clip, nothing.  So when you order a pair of these, order a case too.

You see I put them in my ears after raking out a suitable pair of foamy tips and started playing music.  Oh my god!!! Now it’s been a long time since I fished out the RE-0 but from memory these must be dangerously close to them in audio.  Oh good god, that means you can get a pair of RE-0’s practically for US$35!!!!!!!!!!!  Now while I hear a lot of stuff and as a rule stuff is all so good these days for the money that I’m never really surprised that something is great if not amazing for the price but these…… these are just taking the piss.  Go right now and order a pair.  If you care enough to have read this for, go order at least one pair right now then come to finish reading the review.  I can tell you now though, just buy a pair and thank me later.

Source: FiiO E7/E9 combo, Hisoundaudio Studio V 3rd Anv., HiFiMAN HM-650, 1G Ipod Shuffle, Nexus 5 and Graham Slee Solo Ultra Linear. 

Lows:  If there is anywhere that may contentious it’s probably the lows.  If you think Beats sound awesome but you’d like a bit more bass then these are not for you.  These are neutral which by the powers of human perceptions, you’re not feeling the bass with your whole ear and whole body so those unaccustomed to only hearing bass will find them very bass light.  Now normally I’d say more bass doesn’t mean better or whatever but the fact is these are right, it’s you that’s wrong.  These are for all intents perfectly balanced.  Still the reality is most people aren’t used to only hearing bass and will want very much more than is here.  You can slap in a little bass boosting amp if you want that’ll fill them out but they will never be bass monsters. 

So what about the quality?  OMFG!!!!!! These sound like they have forgotten a 0 off the end of their price.  The sheer nuance and articulation these things have, for US$35 is F-ing nuts!!!!  Pick all of the sweary words and still you’re not going to full express how staggeringly and jaw droppingly good these are for that price.  Nothing else come close and I doubt ever will.  I can only liken it the acoustic equivalent of some Bernini masterpiece, both Apollo and Daphne and the Ecstasy of St. Teresa spring to mind.  Marble like hardness yet so delicately sculpted, flowing and intricate.

Mids:  Staggeringly good.  They may be technically a tiny smidge dry and cool in their expressiveness.   They are more detail than smoothly focused but their detail levels are just so off the charts for this price. Mariah Carey may be the perfect vocal for these to reproduce being so breathy and at the same time being able to swoop and soar to an absurd degree.  Everything sounds excellent on them, and not just for the money, excellent full stop.  Now you can get better and you can get more flavoured options, I mean the PL-50 is still some of the best mids around and in a very, very mid centric form with the most buttery, creamy mids.  The mids here are not smooth and involving, they are a little dry but text book quality.  The detail levels they spit out is crazy and for strings, it’s just crazy town.  The nuances and the detail they extracts so easily is stupid, guitars aren’t just plucking but you can hear their fingers sliding up and down the strings where the ridges of their fingertips meet the texture of the strings.  Once more you can get more detail out of IEM’s but not for anything on the same planet as this price.

Jesus if ever there was a hard core audiophile, pure sonic marvel that everyone needs to have in their collection it is this.  It is benchmark grade, sonically pure neutrality.

Highs:  So if there is anywhere these shine to the utmost degree it is the highs.  Not that are super trebly, though they are a little brighter than most they are still a little touch nudged down from the old 0.  Actually a bit closer to the ZERO perhaps.  Anyway…. these put all that detail retrieval to work and are superbly revealing.  The dawn side to that is you really can ruin some well-loved tracks.  For example I’ve rather liked Skunk Anansi’s Stoosh album.  There are some excellent tracks on there but…. the treble in many of them sounds terrible.  Its scratchy brittle garbage that sound like someone made a maraca’s out of a cheese grater and some rusty nails.  Once you’ve had these detail thrown in your face it’s very hard not to always hear them.  These are easily sufficiently good that they will throw such bad mastering / recordings / low bit rate whatever the problem is, right under your nose.  Once you’ve heard it you can’t un-hear it.  It isn’t really the RE-00’s fault but it is an issue they present.

Honestly though, that’s just reason to get better music.  These can’t and shouldn’t be faulted for being too good.  These are exquisite in their detail retrieval and their clarity.  The most subtle of details are all presented for your perusal and every aspect is stunning.  The reproduction of a metallic twang is stunning as is their ability to smoothly and accurately decay.  Good quality dynamic drivers always beat balanced armatures in the level of naturalness of treble reproduction.  The treble here is among the best of any IEM at any price.  Oh and their extension too is superb.  These are practically acoustically flawless.

Soundstage:  They are fine.  They aren’t huge, they aren’t big.  They do depend on the track you’re listening to as they can nail the acoustic lightness and air of a large or completely open space.  If you have them shallow and far back seated they sound bigger than if you really shove them in there.

Fit:  The included tips, the big bi-flange one well, I get why but I have crap sinuses and the tight seal the silicon tips gives gave me air pressure issues. Very quickly I found a pair of Comply’s and they were just too small to get a seal without ramming them in.  However I did find a pair of the big, rounded ones and that made for a much better fit.  They could sit more shallow and still give me a seal.  Oh and with their bass response level you will want a snug seal.

Comfort:  Tip dependant but with the big foamies and sitting shallow I was happy wearing them for hours and hours at a time.

Cable:  Well it’s just like the old cable from the RE-0.  It kinda sucked then and it kinda sucks now.  It’s a cloth weave thing but the issue is it’s a little stiff and the thing is a kinky like a German porno.  Sigh if only these were a user replaceable cable but they aren’t.  So you buy these and I VERY strongly suggest you buy a case for them, Penon Audio do a few great ones btw.

Microphonics:  Actually it was fine.  I don’t love the cable but especially when worn up there was no microphonic issues.  Just as well since there is no chin slider.

Isolation:  Dependant on tip choices and the seal you get.  With the big Comply’s on it was pretty good.  I’d be totally fine using these out an about and on a bus.  As usual Tube or long flights I’d want a bit more but it’s all waaaaay easy enough to make yourself an impromptu hood ornament.  I think especially easy given there is a high degree you will be paying attention to all the details in your music you never realised was there.  Eye’s people!

Aesthetics:  They look fine.  They look so deceptively bland hiding their amazeballsness.  Looks wise yeah it’s fine, nice but nothing special.

Build Quality:  Now the actually buds seem excellent.  That cable though, yeah I’ve never loved it and I wish it was user replaceable but frankly at the price it feels wrong to moan about it.  The cable is sturdy feeling but it’s that inclination to get all kinky.  Once you’ve wound them up to go in the case you have bought for them and you open it, be careful in their unravelling.

Amped/Unamped:  Well these have an impedance of 64 ohms.  They like power, they like it lots and they scale well with it.  Now of course it’ll work out of your phone and still probably blow everything else away but you buy these you will want an amp.  Even if it’s just a little FiiO esq bass boosting amp.  Hmmm, must remember to suggest Massdrop do a bundle with one of these and maybe a little E6 or something.  Yeah these are stupid amazeballs good and they soar to new heights if you amp them, the bass boosting button is just gravy.  Welcome to crazy audiophile land.

Value:  Shut up and take my money!!!!!

Conclusion:  These are insane, insanely good.  The value question is just so absurd at the price they are selling them for.  There is nothing for a similar that comes close, not just not close but not on the same planet.  If you add a 1 in front of their price then you’re starting to get things closer to them.  If you add a 0 to the end of their price then you’re starting to get things as sonically capable as them.  Seriously these are epic in an epicness way that I need to go buy a thesaurus to even hint at their brilliance.  Anyone who has any, and I mean any audiophile pretentions needs to order a pair right this second if you didn’t already when I told you to at the start.  These are so close to sonic perfection of the likes of the Etymotic ER4 but for the price of a pizza.

There are a few downish sides.  First of all there is the bass “issue.”  You see lots of people expect tons more than is here, when the RE-0 dropped to US$100 there were a bunch of people buying then being shocked.  These are neutral.  The other is that the cable they have and the bundle are not super great.  Now the bundle is fine because then you’re not being forced to buy things you may not want and you can always use the little cardboard box they came in ‘till you get a real case.  Then that cable. Sigh it’s just not one I like, it’s like it was made from old coat hangers, oh if these had a user replaceable cable but then they are soooooooooooooooo cheap.  It’s hard when they sound so phenomenally astounding that you mentally can’t think of them as not operating in the same circles as much higher costing products.

So would I / should you buy one?  Duh, seriously have not ordered at least one pair already?  At their price of US$35 delivered in the US and of US$40 anywhere else in the world there is no product that sounds like this for this price.  There are tiny little things you can quibble over in their acoustic balance and in comparison to other things but long and short of is these are proper world class, first rate, benchmark grade, pure audiophile quality, excellence for a price that is laughably low.  These are for all intents, acoustic perfection and are the best value audio product in the history of buying stuff.

HiFiMAN RE-00 Earphone Quick Review by mark2410

HiFiMAN RE-00 Earphone Quick Review by mark2410

Thanks to Massdrop for the loaner.

Brief:  OMFG go buy a pair right now!

Price:  US$35 in the US and US$40 delivered for the rest of the planet.

Specifications:  Driver: 9 mm dynamic, Impedance: 64 ohm, Sensitivity: 106 dB at 1 mW, Frequency response: 20 Hz – 20 kHz, Cable length: 53 in (135 cm), Weight: 0.6 oz (17 g)

Accessories:  Err two pairs of tips.

Build Quality:  The buds are nice, the cable is rather less so.  Its trĂ© kinky and not in the good way.

Isolation:  Rather good actually.  Dependant on tips and a good seal but these are totally fine for out and about, on a bus sorta stuff.  Not perhaps Tube or long flight stuff but more than sufficient to make you an impromptu hood ornament if you forget what your eyes are for near traffic!

Comfort/Fit:  I found the big bi-flang tips gave me a very hard seal and it was air pressure issue raising.  However with some tip play I found the big round Comply ones worked great for me.  With them in I was happy to wear all day long.

Aesthetics:  They look alright, nothing super amazing but nice enough.

Sound:  So you may wonder why I said go buy a pair now then have been a little so so about them.  These are in most attributes nothing special, then you come to their audio quality.  Now there will be those who don’t like them because of their neutral sound signature.  People are used to massive amounts of bass and these don’t pander to that crowd. These are for all intents almost perfectly neutral.  Aside from them not being flavoured to suit some preferences the rest is jaw dropping.  The level of audio quality these possess is nothing short of stupendous.  They are near identical to the old RE-0 which was a hair away from the ancient and venerable Etymotic ER4.  These are stunning, simply stunning.  Their price is just so at odds with their audio quality level nothing can touch them.  The detail levels these possess is just mind blowing for the money, these aren’t just excellent for the money but simply excellent.  These are more nuanced than most IEM’s at any price.  The sound quality is just staggering.  Just so flawless, so accurate and detailed it’s incredible.  These are reference grade, quality benchmark setting stuff.

Value:  See Brief. Nothing can touch them.

Pro’s:  The most outstanding sound quality that is beyond imagining at this price.

Con’s:  I don’t love the cable.  The bass level won’t please everyone.

Tuesday, 18 October 2016

Trinity Audio Phantom Sabre Earphone Review by mark2410

Trinity Audio Phantom Sabre Earphone Review by mark2410

Thanks to Trinity for the sample.

First Impressions:  It’s a nice looking box with a little plastic window for seeing what’s inside.  Well the earphones anyway, most is hidden.  Nice box and unusually it’s in a landscape format rather than portrait, a little thing but it makes a bit stand out design wise.  Opening it up and we have all the bits, oh and are there lots of bits.  There are a heap of tips, the earphones and the case.  Oh and yes, flanking the case are four, yes four metal tubes of filters.  Yet we still aren’t done, you open up the case and there is a little bag with another two red filters, a shirt clip, a 6.25 to 3.5mm adapter, a 90 degree jack adapter then three cables.  Yes that wasn’t a typo, you get three cables. One is a cloth weave coated thing with a mic and buttons for phone use.  The other two cables are braided things, the differentiation between them is that one has ear guide memory wire stuff and the other doesn’t.  To me this seems a bit over kill, I mean I don’t really like ear guides so a whole new cable for them seems like an over extravagance.  Of course you also have what feels like half a million filters too.  That I like, while I’m not someone that love filters as a rule I lake that they come in two lengths.

So they have the red filters on already and the Trinity website tells me that for the Sabre the Red filters are the most bassy ones.   History says I tend to like the bassy filters as a rule so let’s give them a go first.  Swapping the tips to the foam ones, hmm I might like a slightly larger foamy tip.  Still I get a seal and these are interesting.  There is a dead, blackness to the background and a dead pan vigour to the bass.  Its feels granite like, unyielding and rock solid.  It doesn’t feel a warm bass, there isn’t a softness, no warmly soothing, this is grrrrr beastly firm stuff.  It’s reminding me of the old Denon C751.  Big bass yet it’s a cold, potently unyielding bass.  

Okay I keep finding myself getting lost and playing with different things so see how they deal with stuff and its most curious.  The bass feel epically scaled and so rigidly unyielding.  It’s more elevated in quantity than I think I want so playing with the several hundred filters, hmm that’s going to take forever.  I hope they retain this hardness with the lighter filters.  Grrrrrrrr.  Okay must take these out and go burn in but I think this may be a fun one.  The amount of work the filters give I won’t love but if the last hour is anything to go by, fun times are ahead.

Source: FiiO E7/E9 combo, Hisoundaudio Studio V 3rd Anv., HiFiMAN HM-650, 1G Ipod Shuffle, Nexus 5, Lumia 735 and Graham Slee Solo Ultra Linear.

Lows:  So first off, you can adjust the bass output on these quite significantly.  While I jumped to the red filters first, they are the most bassy ones, I ended up dancing back and forth with the orange and yellow ones as to which I preferred.  I really couldn’t quite decide as different songs suited other things and as I write this with the orange ones I think I want the yellow but when I have the yellows in I think I want the orange ones.  Filters, this is why I hate them, I can never quite say yep that one that’s the one I like best.  There is always a little something saying ooh but maybe that one instead.  The take away for you is that you can adjust the quantity from light to tear your face off.  The quality is more or less unchanged no matter the filter.

Tonality wise these are just like their Vyrus siblings.  There is a hardness, a coldness, a rigidity to them.  Something dark and foreboding like a storm about to break.  The bass roars and cracks like a thunder clap, hard and sudden with a decaying vastness.  The booming power of it, it is for good reason the ancients placed the god of thunder and lightning at the head of the pantheon.  Sitting listening to “Caught A Light Sneeze” and there is just such a texture to it.  It’s not a track with vast bass but there in an underlying bass and a image that has a darkness to it.  A darkness that fills in the background, framing the rest of the acoustic picture, contrasting its blackness.  Something that I can’t quite define, like a Gotham City night sky there is a darkness permeating everything and providing the perfect backdrop.  There is almost something tangibly melancholic to it.  Tori’s version of “I Don’t Like Monday’s” too has that same quality, something detached and cold to the bass.  Something so clean and heartless.

Mids:  They are not unlike the bass in that there is that same certain cold detached something to them.  Not dry or breathy but they have such a deadpan tonal presentation.  Something so uninfluenced by any warmth or feeling.  Something so emotionally detached, maybe even despondent, I just cannot put my finger on it.  Like a wistful sadness there is a purity in its tone and timbre.  So many shades of grey and the layering, each a delicate and detailed composition on its own.  The dynamic range too is high yet that is that inescapable monochromatic lack of colouring to it all.  Everything is somehow cleaner than it should, that contrast enhanced and expanded.  I’m not really quite capturing how it comes across in my description, I’m just not quite pairing the sound to the words, I just don’t have the words to fully express the capabilities of these.

Quantity wise they are never especially prominent and depending on the filter at most they are fairly in line.  With most the bass tends be a bit bigger.  The mids are good quality and while they don’t have any great degree of warmth or richness their grey tonality offers something unusual.  That tone gives a coldness, a detached something and it works perfectly with songs that have a sadness to them.  If you throw something more party and lively at them they will spring to life and dance yet there is ever a certain deadness vocally.  Like a high contrast black and white photo.

Highs:  You can dial up the quantity quite a bit if you want the trebly filters but I’d wager most wont.  They treble in its quality is nice, very nice and it has a delicately fine point.  I tried to play more treble happy songs but I found myself listening to The Beautiful South’s “Prettiest Eyes.”  Listening out to all the little treble details, so clean and tonally pure.  With a little grey metallic twang as triangles and cymbals impact.  There is lots of detail and it’s all so very highly delicately rendered with a little ping that decays away gently.  Dynamics are very dynamic though I note that to get the best out of them you’ll want to throw power at them and I’d say stay clear of warmly soft sources.  The Studio V and the Nuforce uDAC3 into the Solo Ultra was superb.  These love to have power applied, it just ever firms up their already hard presentation.  They take on an extra dynamism too.  It’s a presentation that I have always loved and is rather rare too, many things are inclined to a warmer, richer more organically rounded style.  The Sabre is taking names and kicking ass.  Super-duper fun. 

The treble while hard is refined enough that it can dazzle away to its hearts content, clean and crisp.  With a shimmer and pin sharp cleanliness that even treble happy tracks where super exciting thrill rides.  Normally that presentation style would be a little over so for me and my treble sensitive ears but those filters come into play.  You slap in ones with the dampeners and it takes away enough and diminishes to near nothing any abrasiveness.  If you must have more and brighter treble hurled at you then go with the non-dampening filters. 

Soundstage:  There is a bit of space to them but these have a hardness that makes them feel like a sealed room.  A fairly bigish room but sealed tightly the air is compressed with every bass thump and it is hard, no gentle fading soft stuff.  Solidity all the way.  String based orchestral works do sound full-bodied and symphonically striking but your still in a sealed room, just a grandly scaled one.

Fit:  At first I had the shorter tips on and I did find that they were a little shallow fitting.  However they come with longer tips too and changing to those improved things.  With those on I had zero issues.

Comfort:  Great.  My ears were happy to have them in for hours and hours.  Though I did notice that I tended toward more vigorous music which did start to get ear tiring.  Despite that I kept going with the fast paced and darkly grandiose tunes at volume so I can’t really blame the Sabre’s for that.

Microphonics:  So two seconds after posting the Vyrus review I realise that these do indeed have a chin slider I just hadn’t noticed.  Though it really wasn’t needed as unless I went out of my way to hit the cable or drag the braiding over my collar.  None in normal use.

Build Quality:   The buds as best as I can tell, by my eyes and finger tips, seems super good.  It’s not like I’m going to beat them with hammer to test but not a thing about them gives me pause. 

Cable:  I am still a little unconvinced by the cable thinness but as the thing comes with not just user replaceable cables but with 3 in the box including one that has a different outer.  It has a cloth weave over it (with a microphone too) so if they did die you’ve got 3 to go through and you can always user replace them with whatever you want anyway.  The jack also seems great as does the super handy 90 degree adapter.

Isolation:  A little bitty filter dependant as some ore more open than others, also the more deep you insert things the more isolation you normally get too.  In use I was perfectly happy using out and about and on a bus too.  Not exactly Tube commute or long light stuff but for a dynamic they are rather good.  Naturally they are more than enough to get your skull bouncing off a wheeled death machine if you don’t remember to use your eyes near traffic.

Accessories:  It is a first rate bundle.  I mean you get 10 pairs of filters, 5 different sound signatures in two lengths each. The box says 13 pairs of tips.  Then the 6.25 to 3.5mm jack, the 90 degree 3.5 to 3.5mm jack, 3 different cables and lastly a case.  The cables being one normal braided, one braided with memory wire ear guide things and then a cloth weave phone one with a mic and controls on it.  I’m not sure what else you could possibly include.

Amped/Unamped:  Do these “need” power, no.  They sounds good from even my terrible Nexus 5.  What they didn’t sound though was outstanding and these are capable of doing so.  You should be aware if you buy these you’ll get by totally fine with any old phone or source but if you chuck some beefy power at them, they will reward you for the wallet pain.  They just got more, more stuff you know, more.  More beefy, more solid, more potent, more vigorous, more engaging, more captivating, more dynamically spectacular, like I said, more.  Oh and if I might suggest try to go with a cool, hard source / amp to really let them go wild.

Value:  They are going for just £125 and well, I think that’s a bit of a bargain.  I’m sure I paid about that for my old Denon C751’s and these completely spank them up and down the place.  Now there is a heap of stuff that you can get for that money that is also fabulous, I mean there has been an explosion of great stuff at great prices in the last handful of years.  So none of them I could ever say is the mostest bestest value ever in the universe.  The boring truth is stuff is so good now at this price it is more about getting what pair’s up to your tastes and your hearing curve.  There are a bunch of reasons though why these should get on your list of things to check out.  Firstly they kinda sound a bit amazeballs.  That darkly hard vigour they just ooze is super awesome, the instrument separation it spits out is emphasised and superb.  The other thing is that if you are a normal person and you’re perhaps only going to have one pair of really good earphones, you’re maybe not totally sure what is for you because you haven’t heard many high quality earphones?  The Sabre has all those filters for you to experiment and find out just what is the one for you.  You might think it’s the super bassy one and maybe it will be in the beginning.  Then maybe as your musical pallet refines you’ll see the merits in a more natural or even neutral sound.  This gives you options in a way other things just don’t.  Even more so if it’s a Christmas gift.  You might not exactly what would be best for a loved one, buy them this and they can chose a sound signature themselves.

Conclusion:  Yeah so it’s probably a little apparent that I like these bucket loads.  While I’ve not played a part in there tuning I have in the past with Trinity and I think in these it shows.  They kick ass.  Now sure maybe you don’t want ass kicking thrill rides, there is a time and a place for something all soothing and relaxing.  Variety is the spice of whatever and such.  Sooooo you can play about with the filters though I’d say with none of them do these became some gooey hot fudge Sunday, ever.  These are hard, clean, and vicious like a citrus sorbet.  Sweet and tart and light and refreshingly pallet cleansing.

Nothing is of course, perfect.  These are vigorous and whatnot and while I loved even more melodic, cleanly recorded Susan Wong for the oh so enhanced acoustic contrast, these never at any point soothed me.  No rich, mellow relaxing etc etc.  These wanted me fully awake and paying attention at all times.  Exciting and fun but after a day with spent with them in my ears and gosh they are exhausting.  All that energy and enthusiasm is both a plus and a negative for some.  Nothing is ever good or bad only, things are simply attributes and it is how they compare to what you want is what makes things a positive or a negative.

So would I / should you buy one.  Yes.  There is very little in the qualification of that yes.  They are gloriously entertaining and with their filter options I’d expect every one that gets to play with a pair will find something right for them.  Well unless you want earphones to drift off to sleep with.  Not that they are perfect but they are for the price not far off it.  I know I may be biased but these work for my ears, seriously big time.  I’ve also got Christmas gift neon lights going off in my head and it’s very safe to say these will be listed on my little Christmas gift guide this year, if you’re interested I’d nab a set sooner rather than later.